BBC Lie No.3 - That Paul Waugh & Jai Singh Refused To Be Interviewed By The BBC

1. BBC Lie Three

Paul Waugh, Jai Singh refused to be interviewed by the BBC and respond to allegations.

2. Background & Context of Said Lie

The BBC has purposely and knowingly lied in order to deceive the public to believe the myth that Paul Waugh, Jai Singh, and Lighthouse as a whole refused to be interviewed by the BBC. This is an outright and extremely provable lie that is comprehensively debunked below.
The truth and absolute fact of the matter is that Paul Waugh and others at Lighthouse went to great efforts in trying to arrange an interview with the BBC, but were at every stage snubbed, ignored or rebuffed. This is backed up and proven via compelling and categoric material evidence in the way of emails exchanged between Lighthouse and the BBC, between February 2022 and 15th March 2023.

3. Deliberate Omissions In Order To Coerce, Manipulate & Deceive The BBC Viewer And Licence Fee-Payer

This evidence demonstrates, in clear black and white, how the BBC have knowingly lied to and deceived the public, despite being in full knowledge of the facts and that Lighthouse is in possession of this evidence too. It therefore goes on to prove just how little the BBC expects the everyday man or woman to be able to successfully challenge them on even the most blatant fabrications, falsehoods and acts of deceit like this. No more!

4 Exhibits, Evidence & Reason

Here are the 11 facts, full emails below this post.

Fact 1: We initially did not know about this documentary at all until after a year of its production. We found out by pure chance when a family member (he was shocked we did not know), mistakenly revealed this information to Warren Vaughan, Lighthouse Director, in a meeting, 24th September 2022.

This is Warren Vaughan’s email written to the BBC’s Broadcast Journalist Natalie Truswell as well as the BBC’s Director-General (Tim Davie), Head of BBC Current Affairs (Joanna Carr). Warren Vaughan made BBC aware of their investigation into Lighthouse International Group and expressed our desire to be involved.

Paul Waugh publicly tweeted about Lighthouse’s communication with the BBC in October 2022:

Long before any confirmed news of a BBC investigation into Lighthouse reached us though, we had directly contacted BBC reporter, Mike Cowan, asking him for an interview and the BBC to investigate. This was after he had posted on Reddit in late 2021 and had received comments from anti-Lighthouse Reddit users. James Mills wrote to him in February 2022. There was no reply. Here are some key excerpts from that email asking for a BBC interview with Paul personally on 17th February 2022 (Over a 13 months before the BBC Podcast aired, see full email at end of post).

Dear Mike

My name is James Mills, Associate Partner of Lighthouse International Group. I picked up your details from a post on Reddit back in October/November when you put a call out for information on cults and groups of concern …

…our Chairman Paul Waugh himself came out of a cult, the Jehovah’s Witnesses and has helped many people do the same and would be happy for you to interview him on this and anything else…

…We have an incredible story to share and encourage yourself and any of your colleagues to be part of sharing it far and wide… 

…Often the friends and family members of our clients become jealous of the time invested in developing themselves and being around a different group of people… so immediately we are branded as a dangerous cult! If there is anything about us that is at all cult-like we want to know about it and we want to change it! …

…I value your work on investigating dangerous cults Mike, it is so needed to protect vulnerable people. I and we want to help in any way we can with this…

…These people who have a destructive agenda towards us would love for you to do an investigation into us and frankly speaking, we would too… but only if based on reason and fact!…

…We want the truth out there as soon as and as comprehensively as possible.

Fact 2: The BBC did not want us to know about this production or for us to be involved for that matter. November 2021 – February 2023

The BBC’s Catrin Nye deceived their podcast audience by stating that Lighthouse was unaware of their investigation when Natalie Truswell wrote to Paul Waugh and Jai Singh on 13th February 2023 to ‘break cover’. This is a transcripted quote from A Very British Cult Podcast, Episode 7 (Time: 16:47)

Catrin Nye: “It’s now been 18 months since that first call with Jeff’s girlfriend Dawn, the call when I first heard about Lighthouse. We’ve now gathered enough evidence to break cover and contact Paul Waugh himself and ask for an interview. We want his side of the story. It’s always a nerve-wracking moment because it’s the moment that people you’re investigating realise you’re looking into them.”

Fact 3: Natalie Truswell of the BBC sent us an email rejecting our request, (Warren Vaughan’s request to be part of the BBC production and to offer a response). 3rd October 2022

Following a follow-up email from Warren Vaughan on 28th September 2022, the BBC’s Natalie Truswell provided a blunt one-line reply.

Fact 4: Shaun Cooper challenged the decision for Lighthouse to not be involved. 3rd October 2022 – 24th January 2023

Lighthouse Director, Shaun Cooper, followed up with an update to the BBC that highlighted the character of the BBC’s sources as well as how the Daily Mail had been weaponised by them against Lighthouse. Here is an excerpt from his email on 3.10.22:

Later in October 2022 Paul Waugh tweeted warning of consequences for media outlets joining the anti-Lighthouse smear campaign:

 

Fact 5: The BBC changed their tune and backtracked saying they now wanted an interview with Paul Waugh and Jai Singh. 13th February 2023

Below are the covering comments from a short email sent by Natalie Truswell attaching the invitation to interview on 13.2.23:

 

Fact 6: Paul Waugh accepted on the condition that we can present evidence. 13th February 2023 – 18th February 2023

Paul Waugh accepted Natalie Truswell’s invitation to be interviewed on 13.2.23.

Paul Waugh then followed up on 18.2.23 asking for the BBC to ask the permission from their sources for us to legally bring our evidence to the table. He also asked for the interview questions so that relevant evidence could be presented to refute false allegations.

Fact 7: Natalie Truswell rejects the request to present evidence with the written permission of their sources. Ms Truswell still wants the interview to proceed. 18th February 2023

Natalie Truswell writes back on the same day (18th February) to say that the BBC will not provide the information in advance needed by Paul Waugh to provide evidence in an interview.

 

Fact 8: We reject all interviews without being allowed to submit and show their audience the full evidence and disclosure of the facts, to the public, and that being included in the documentary. 22nd February – 15th March 2023

Paul Waugh repeats his requests to Natalie Truswell and warns of the consequences of a biased and prejudiced broadcast by the BBC. Here is his email on 22.2.23 (see below post for full email):

Paul Waugh tweeted the same day:

Paul Waugh later wrote again to Natalie Truswell and Tim Davie (BBC Director-General) on the 15th March 2023, making the BBC’s continued wilful ignorance and side stepping of offers to receive compelling counter evidence from Lighthouse clear, whilst warning them that their decisions will make them complicit in a smear campaign. He tweeted the full contents of this response on the same day, included below:

Fact 9: Paul Waugh and partners make both a public and private request to appear live in their studio to be interviewed in real time. 4th & 5th April 2023

Paul Waugh publicly tweets Catrin Nye and the BBC multiple times asking to conduct a live interview in real-time on prime-time BBC TV, below being one example of this:

As well as direct tweets to Catrin Nye and all of her team, messages were also sent to other BBC existing and ex journalists.. 

In line with the above Tweet from Paul Waugh, Lighthouse Associate James Mills contacted Mr Meirion Jones, asking him to help arrange a live interview between Paul Waugh and Catrin Nye, who he knows personally.

Senior BBC TV Producer and Journalist, Pádraig Prendergast, who interestingly describes himself on his twitter profile as “one of the good ones, promise”, was in direct contact with Catrin Nye about the ‘A Very British Cult’ production. Knowing this, he was also privately contacted by James Mills asking for a LIVE interview and debate, as seen below..

Catrin Nye also appeared on the BBC Radio 4 Feedback programme on 14.4.23, which is a programme described as holding the BBC to account on behalf of the radio audience. Catrin Nye was interviewed about her experience of making ‘A Very British Cult’ and Associate James Mills tweeted them requesting a live, prime-time interview with no reply.

 

Fact 10: All requests are ignored, not even a response from the BBC in this regard. 4th April 2023 to date.

Paul Waugh publicly tweeted the BBC’s attempts to sidestep both his offer of evidence and a live, real-time and prime-time interview:

Fact 11: The BBC presents the lie to the public that Paul Waugh and Jai Singh did not want to be part of the ‘A Very British Cult’ production at all, giving the public the misled understanding that we were avoiding exposure because of our guilt and shame. This is just one of the many lies of the BBC that they know to be a lie. 5th April 2023, 14th April 2023.

In a follow-up interview on Radio 4 on the 14th April 2023, Catrin Nye stated that the BBC did not get a response to the allegations about Lighthouse:

Catrin Nye: “We sent our allegations in writing in the form of what’s called a right of reply, which is basically, when we offer someone that we’re investigating the opportunity to reply to everything that we’ve found, and we sent more than 120 allegations to Lighthouse. I mean, the short version is that we didn’t get a response to all those allegations. And we extended the deadline three times in order to allow them to reply, but we didn’t get that. And that’s why what you hear at the end of the documentary is an interview in the street, which is kind of, I guess, you describe it as your last resort. Like you want someone to have the opportunity to reply.” 

The reality is that the BBC sent these 120 allegations on 6th March 2023 with an initial deadline of less than two weeks and a month before the planned broadcast. This is after we tried several times over the course of a year to speak to the BBC as you can see in the full appendix of email communications below. 

The BBC wanted us to provide full evidence when the people involved had never given us permission to use very private information. We’d already told them that and this respect for confidential data was disregarded, even mocked by Catrin Nye.

Additionally it would’ve taken hundreds of pages of evidence, information and backup to respond (2-4 pages minimum for each allegation with messages, emails, recordings etc). Essentially it would’ve been a book to write after searching out all the relevant evidence to provide to them, outside an NDA (Non-disclosure Agreement), which would’ve been illegal at the time. We’d already had the ICO write to us about this. The BBC knew this, but cynically sent this list when they have all our discussion before in which we were asking for permission to use their sources’ data and to know what allegations needed to be responded to.

The BBC did not want us to give us a full and fair response to the allegations, if they did, then why didn’t they give us that deadline 8-12months before? They only asked us for our evidence a couple of days before broadcast. We had told them we needed permission from the sources, which they didn’t have. 

The fact is that by this point the BBC had been so devious and so dishonest through this process (evidenced below in appendix) that we didn’t trust them. This is when Paul demanded an interview live in real-time in relation to the allegations made.

If the BBC couldn’t offer a live interview because there were too many, then why present so many unproven falsehoods in a broadcast? We actually did an experiment, it took over 7 hours for Paul Waugh to respond to all 120 allegations in short, without evidence and without a break.

This is what the likes of the BBC do. They throw allegations out there without facts and context and make it sound like we didn’t want to give it. You can see from the email communications stream below that the BBC is lying.

5. Final Comments

As you will see, this information alone is damning to the BBC’s facade and it is why they refuse to have Paul Waugh on a Live and real-time interview with them because what you see here is just the tip of the iceberg.. ‘Nothing gets in the way of a good story like the truth’ huh?! ..And that is Catrin Nye’s, Natalie Truswell, Tim Davie’s and the entire BBC’s problem with Lighthouse!!!

We just have too much truth and evidence to back it up that completely contradicts the story they wanted to tell.

However, unlike the dark character assassins on Reddit who are the source for this docu-soap and ‘public hanging’ meted out on the licence fee payer’s tab, our intentions and desires are for reform. We are not looking to destroy anyone’s life, reputation or career. We are calling for reform. We have only reached this point because of the sheer arrogance and haughtiness of a BBC that does not believe it needs to change. That believes they can get away with this kind of deceitful mastery because they have done it again and again..Well, Lighthouse is here to tell them that they can’t and they won’t and many millions more are about to join us in that. God’s blessings and grace to all this Sunday /Monday, wherever you are in the world. Please pray for our enemies and all who have and do fall prey to them. In Christ we trust and in Christ we will prevail. God speed

Full Emails (Appendix)

Email Communications

Exhibit 1: Lighthouse to the BBC – 17th February 2022

Date: 17th February 2022

From: James Mills (Lighthouse) 

To: Mike Cowan (BBC)

Subject: We have been falsely accused of being a cult by individuals and now the media when we are actually developing healthy support communities, please read on…

Dear Mike

My name is James Mills, Associate Partner of Lighthouse International Group. I picked up your details from a post on Reddit back in October/November when you put a call out for information on cults and groups of concern (https://www.reddit.com/r/cults/comments/qbyws8/bbc_groups_of_concern/). To clarify upfront we have absolutely nothing to do with ‘The Lighthouse’ in Frome that you subsequently featured on your File on 4 feature ‘Am I in a Cult?’ that was broadcasted on 28th November 2021.

We are in fact a personal development organisation (18 years strong) specialising in mentoring, coaching, counselling and leadership training. We also specialise in support-community, support-building for people who have come out of extremely abusive families and have nowhere after leaving.

These families, some of which have now turned on us, along with some disgruntled ex-Associates bitter over a financial dispute, have coordinated a vicious and destructive smear campaign over the last 12 months or so including anonymous trolling on platforms like Reddit, Quora and LinkedIn. We know that some of these people were in touch with you given their replies to your post on Reddit. These same individuals are currently under legal and criminal investigation; working with Cohen Davis Solicitors. Consequently where we have undeniable evidence we are in conversations with employers in order to hold them accountable to their online abuse (we can happily share more on this should you wish).    

I’m getting in touch for two reasons….

The first is that you asked on Reddit for comments in relation to dangerous groups and experiences of people and for interviews. Although you have already broadcasted the feature you were asking for people to contribute to, our Chairman Paul Waugh himself came out of a cult, the Jehovah’s Witnesses and has helped many people do the same and would be happy for you to interview him on this and anything else (more on this below).

The second is because recently we had the Daily Mail contact us (Investigations Editor Tom Kelly) in relation to a libellous and disparaging article they were considering doing on us related to the unsubstantiated and false claims made online through internet trolling. We suspect that the same individual(s) were in touch with you as they were with Tom Kelly in an attempt to destroy our reputation. We have since scuppered their attempts to publish a one-sided, biased article by sending an extensive 239-page document containing evidence to the contrary backed up by numerous sworn statements to Mr Kelly. 

We have plenty more to send to Mr Kelly, but he seems to be overwhelmed by what we’ve sent him so far. His deadline for this article is no longer of great urgency as he knows publishing what he planned would render himself and the Daily Mail open to libel. We stated very clearly to Mr Kelly that we wanted him to publish his article, BUT only if it was well investigated and well substantiated. We are very interested in being investigated providing that it is done for healthy balanced reasons. We have an incredible story to share and encourage yourself and any of your colleagues to be part of sharing it far and wide.

This begs the question as to why an organisation like ours that seeks to provide a safe place for people to heal and become more successful in line with benevolent intentions would be in the firing line for online trolling. Our 18 years of pioneering research into human potential has helped us to understand why and it’s not a convenient truth!

What we have learnt is that it’s not dangerous cults that people ought to fear alone (although they are very damaging in their own right), but instead it’s often members of their own toxic families. 

Mike, time and time again, we have seen parents, siblings, partners, friends and work colleagues sabotage the growth and development of people we’ve worked with. We’ve sought to help our clients to follow through and apply what they learn through our community support groups. This can often result in people creating healthy distance from those family members in order to heal which is recommended by psychologists such as Susan Forward PhD. Often the friends and family members of our clients become jealous of the time invested in developing themselves and being around a different group of people… so immediately we are branded as a dangerous cult! If there is anything about us that is at all cult-like we want to know about it and we want to change it! 

If we were just a personal development company selling one-off products and services we would not have these problems.

One of the allegations that came up in the email from the Daily Mail was, “Ex-Members say that Lighthouse International Group behaves like a cult”. They also wrote, “A charity that deals with cults and the victims of psychological manipulation, said in the last year 10 per cent of all its calls had been about LIG, which it described as ‘one of the nastiest and most dangerous groups we have come across in 30 years of working in this field.” We subsequently discovered that the said charity does not actually assess what is a cult and what is a healthy community. Additionally, we do not see any evidence of verifying whether these calls were genuine concerns or hearsay intended to damage and destroy Lighthouse International Group. We find it very telling that we, as a small business, suddenly had an influx of allegations made against us at the same time as an ongoing smear campaign against us when we’d had no such reports in the previous 17 years! 

The reality is that few people know the difference between an unhealthy and dangerous community (or dangerous cult) and a healthy community (that has most certainly had its problems). So we have decided to communicate, educate, campaign and lobby for healthy community and its protection.

The Personal Development Industry that we are in needs governance. Healthy community must be built and protected; especially where people are coming out of toxic families. We are starting a petition and going big with it amongst other things. This will keep coming at us if we don’t. It’s because we have community groups to help people get out of abusive families that we are a potential target of some of these families. As well as contacting the media, they’ve even tried to use the police to intimidate members of our team who have given themselves the time and space to heal from childhood trauma and chronic physical health issues which often takes many years. 

I value your work on investigating dangerous cults Mike, it is so needed to protect vulnerable people. I and we want to help in any way we can with this. 

These people who have a destructive agenda towards us would love for you to do an investigation into us and frankly speaking, we would too… but only if based on reason and fact! Our lawyers’ advice has been to say as little as possible to the media and fight this using injunctions. However we have decided not to follow their advice because we feel there’s a bigger story here; the damage that toxic families have on children is a big reason why individuals end up joining cults like the ones you featured. In seeking the community and close bonds they didn’t get growing up, they end up joining a dangerous cult (we have access to research on this). There’s a lot of attention on the damage done by dangerous cults but not much on toxic families, and most concerningly, even less on healthy communities as the solution for these issues.

We want the truth out there as soon as and as comprehensively as possible. (We want to communicate, educate, lobby and campaign for community support networks). 

As I mentioned, our Chairman and Head Mentor, Paul Waugh, wants to speak to as many people in the media as possible about the issues that affect children, young people and those wanting to help the most vulnerable members of our human family. He’s already been invited by ITV News to speak about our campaign against online trolling which we launched as a result of the abuse we suffered and to now help others deal with it (https://youtu.be/03TFEYOHg1o). 

In line with educating people on this subject, one of our team has started to investigate and write about the difference between cults and communities. 

True Communities Vs Cults – Part 1

We Need To Talk About Pathology – True Communities Vs Cults Part 2

Libellous Claims Comparing Lighthouse to NXIVM Cult – True Communities Vs Cults Part 3

As you can see, there’s a lot we can share and given your interests in subjects like parental alienation, mental health and effective law enforcement we would love to explore how we can contribute what we’ve learnt from the last 18 years to the issues you’re looking to feature. 

I look forward to hearing from you. 

James

Exhibit 2: Lighthouse to the BBC – 24th February 2022

Date: 24th February 2022

From: James Mills (Lighthouse) 

To: Mike Cowan (BBC)

Subject: Fwd: We have been falsely accused of being a cult by individuals and now the media when we are actually developing healthy support communities, please read on…

Dear Mike, 

I hope this finds you well. 

Last week I sent you an email in relation to the experience of being accused of being a cult as part of a smear campaign against us as individuals and an organisation. Firstly I wanted to confirm whether you’ve had the opportunity to read what I shared. 

Secondly as an update I wanted to share a press release we are sending out to the national press. We are launching our Business Against Trolls campaign based on our experiences from the last year (press release attached) and so wanted to see if this is something you or a colleague would be willing to feature.

I look forward to hearing from you. 

Regards 

James

Exhibit 3: Lighthouse to the BBC – 24th September 2022

Date: 24th September 2022

From: Warren Vaughan (Lighthouse) 

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC), Joanna Carr (BBC), Mike Cowan (BBC)

Subject: ATTENTION: Natalie Truswell, Mike Cowan, Joanna Carr and Tim Davie

Dear Natalie,

My name is Warren Vaughan. I am a Senior Partner and co-founder of Lighthouse International Group.

It has come to my attention that you plan to do a story on Lighthouse International Group and have been in touch with a few individuals asking for them to take part in your investigation? If this is indeed the case our Chairman and Founder, Paul Waugh, would relish the opportunity to sit with you and help you in your investigations.

Mike Cowan, a colleague of yours at the BBC, was supposedly doing a similar story. We contacted him twice back in February of this year and offered to be interviewed but have not had a reply.(See below the emails we sent him) Is this because this story has been shelved? If so please let us know. If not then we would be very interested in being involved.

You may or may not be aware of the libel case that we are bringing against the Daily Mail. This may be the reason why some of the individuals you have contacted have refused to take part.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Warm regards

Warren Vaughan

Exhibit 4: Lighthouse to the BBC – 28th September 2022

Date: 28th September 2022

From: Warren vaughan (Lighthouse) 

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC), Joanna Carr (BBC), Mike Cowan (BBC)

Subject: Lighthouse International Group Story – 2nd Sending: (1st sending on 24th September 2022)

ATTENTION : Tim Davie, Joanna Carr, Natalie Truswell & Mike Cowan

Dear Natalie,

Please see below the email that I sent on the 24th of September. I have yet to receive a response from anyone regarding this matter.

Regards

Warren Vaughan

Exhibit 5: The BBC Reply to Lighthouse – 3rd October 2022 

Date: 3rd October 2022

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC) 

To: Warren Vaughan (Lighthouse)

Subject: Re: Lighthouse International Group Story – 2nd Sending: (1st sending on 24th September 2022)

To Warren Vaughan,

It is not BBC practice to respond to enquires of this kind.

Best wishes,

Natalie

Exhibit 6: Lighthouse to the BBC – 3rd October 2022

Date: 3rd October 2022

From: Shaun Cooper (Lighthouse) 

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC), Joanna Carr (BBC), Mike Cowan (BBC)

Subject: Lighthouse International Group Story

Attention: Natalie Truswell, Mike Cowan, Joanna Carr and Tim Davie

Dear Natalie,

I was just about to send you the below before my Business Partner Warren Vaughan shared your brief response with me. In light of that I believe it is even more important that you read this. 

It has come to our attention that you are looking into doing a story in relation to Lighthouse International Group and, if you are, it’s prudent that you know that many of your sources are currently being investigated by the police for harassment and hate speech (including racist and religious hate speech) against us. I am communicating with you because I have been central to these investigations and communications with the police.

We advise if you do go ahead that you don’t give a one-sided story like the Daily Mail has done through its coverage of us. They fell short of doing their fact-checking and did not produce a well-balanced article as a result. Given impartiality is a core component of your editorial guidelines, you cannot give airtime to people who are biassed and prejudiced. We have asked you if we may offer a response to any allegations made, especially if malicious and false as they have been in the media thus far. How can it not be BBC policy to respond to enquiries of this kind? That does not make sense. 

I want to draw your attention to the fact that the police are investigating two of the sources behind the Daily Mail article; Mr Richard Thomas (crime reference: 42/180500/22) and Ms Joanne Holmes (crime reference: 42/243528/22). The police have been trying to make contact with Mr Thomas for a few weeks in order to, in their words, “deal with Mr Thomas accordingly”. Furthermore, information and insights into the two aforementioned sources can be found below. 

Mr Richard Thomas https://lighthouseinternationalgroupdailymail.com/daily-mail-richard-thomas-lighthouse-international-international-group/

Ms Joanne Holmes

https://lighthouseinternationalgroupdailymail.com/daily-mail-joanne-holmes-lighthouse-international-international-group/ 

The Daily Mail

Everything you need to know about the libellous Daily Mail article as well as their and your fallacious sources and their malicious falsehoods can be found by clicking the link below.

https://lighthouseinternationalgroupdailymail.com/ 

In addition, the retraction letter we sent to the Editor at the Daily Mail, Ted Verity, can be viewed by clicking the link below. 

https://lighthouseinternationalgroupdailymail.com/retraction-letter-to-ted-verity-daily-mail-from-paul-waugh-lighthouse-international-group/ 

Thirdly, below is a link to the truth behind the recording that one of the sources manipulated a recording that the Daily mail used to falsely paint Mr Paul Waugh as a bully. 

https://lighthouseinternationalgroupdailymail.com/the-truth-of-the-manipulated-recording-the-daily-mail-used-to-attack-lighthouse-international-groups-paul-waugh/ 

I have attached a few tweets for your information from Mr Paul Waugh (https://twitter.com/PaulWaugh64), Chairman of Lighthouse International Group, in response to these malicious falsehoods and constructive sabotage.

You are welcome to come to us to comment on anything in relation to this. We are in the process of pursuing legal action for libel against many of these sources. Mr Waugh is very keen to speak to you in relation to all of this.

 

In closing, the recent case of James Watt, CEO of Brewdog, it was revealed that one of the sources to the BBC Scotland was indeed one of his trolls. So we humbly ask and request that you do not make it worse for these sources and indeed do not make it worse for yourselves. 

Kind regards,

Shaun Cooper

Exhibit 7: The BBC to Lighthouse – 13th February 2023

Date: 13th February 2023

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

To: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

Subject: BBC Investigation

Attachment: PW BBC Interview Invite.pdf 

Dear Paul Waugh, 

Please find attached an invitation to interview. 

Yours sincerely,

Natalie

Natalie Truswell

Producer – BBC NEWS

Exhibit 8: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 13th February 2023

Date: 13th February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Fantastic. Look forward to it. Will confirm date. 

Paul Waugh 

Exhibit 9: The BBC reply to Lighthouse – 16th February 2023

Date: 16th February 2023

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

To: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your prompt response.

Could you please confirm which date next week is most convenient for you.

Thank you,

Natalie 

Exhibit 10: Lighthouse to the BBC – 17th February 2023 

Date: 17th February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Dear Natalie, 

Sorry for delay. We have been discussing the parameters given our shocking experience with the Daily Mail on how logically this interview will work for us. We have  discussed this interview with our counsel which has also taken some time. 

Paul Waugh

Lighthouse 

Exhibit 11: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 18th February 2023

Date: 18th February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Dear Natalie, 

Before I confirm a date with you for the interview and to give credence to the investigation you say you are conducting, I will require two things to ensure this isn’t a tabloid-esque he-said / she-said report. 

We have been down that road with The Daily Mail and IPSO are now for every good reason investigating their unfounded and unjust article on us here at Lighthouse. 

Firstly, I request that you ask your sources (in direct relation to the questions you have prepared for myself and Jai Singh) to give us permission in writing legally allowing us to bring our and the relevant and appropriate evidence to the table. This is so we are able to demonstrate to you and potentially your viewers the reality based, solid facts in evidence that we have in our possession. Your sources are constantly threatening us with data protection agencies and confidentiality controls for very good reason. They are hiding behind data protection while telling their falsehoods to the likes of the BBC so that you can appear to give them the credibility they actually don’t have given such evidence as mentioned above. 

Secondly, I’ll need the questions you’re going to ask us so I can present such evidence to you in relation to your questions directly where possible. 

Very simply, I want to bring evidence to the table. I can’t bring the evidence to the table until your sources give me permission to and I know what evidence I need to bring.   

If you can do that by those dates, I will take any of them. 

Paul Waugh 

Lighthouse

Exhibit 12: The BBC reply to Lighthouse – 21st February 2023

Date: 21st February 2023

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

To: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Dear Paul, 

Thanks for getting back to me. This is the basis on which we can proceed. 

the BBC does not send specific questions to any interviewee in accordance with the BBC’s editorial guidelines. However, we can send you broad areas of questioning we would follow in the interview. 

Within the interview we would provide enough information and detail about the arguments and allegations for you to understand them and give an informed response. This is again in accordance with the BBC’s editorial guidelines. 

We are keen to interview you so that you can represent your position in person. Please do confirm whether you would like to go ahead.

Best, 

Natalie

Exhibit 13: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 22nd February 2023

Date: 22nd February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC), 

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Dear Natalie,

You have ignored the majority of what is my main condition and request to be part of the interview completely. This can only be deliberate. Why? I have pasted the part you have not responded to below.

I requested as follows from my earlier email..

Firstly, I request that you ask your sources (in direct relation to the questions you have prepared for myself and Jai Singh) to give us permission in writing legally allowing us to bring our and the relevant and appropriate evidence to the table. This is so we are able to demonstrate to you and potentially your viewers the reality based, solid facts in evidence that we have in our possession. Your sources are constantly threatening us with data protection agencies and confidentiality controls for very good reason. They are hiding behind data protection while telling their falsehoods to the likes of the BBC so that you can appear to give them the credibility they actually don’t have given such evidence as mentioned above.

Please respond accordingly.

I do appreciate that your sources will not want to grant us permission to bring data protected evidence for obvious reasons. It would completely discredit them and their lies in their own words with what their actual experience was while at Lighthouse over a period of years. We have hundreds of thousands of pages of transcribed recordings, journals, text messages and emails. Our evidence is not based on hearsay or maliciously false allegations. Everything we do here is recorded, and if we had not we would not be in this strong position we are today. Do you and the BBC not care about the facts, the truth, evidence, reality? It seems so. However it ought to be a very big red warning light for you. I can also see why you would not want to respond at all to this very difficult request.

We would also be potentially (subject to counsel) willing to provide data protected evidence (including our recent submission of 600 pages of evidence to the courts in relation to your sources which completely refuted their accusations) for your perusal without your sources permission under the safeguards of an NDA. At least then you would know where you stand legally, morally and ethically even though you would not be able to use it.

If you should go ahead anyway and defame, slander and misrepresent us given we have given you every opportunity to get the truth and facts with evidence then we will litigate. We will never let you forget or let yourselves get away with this. You would do well to wait for the outcome of the impending court case commencing next week and as well as the fate of the Daily Mail who are currently reeling in an IPSO investigation. The Daily Mail failed to question the credibility of their sources and the validity of their allegations and have been shocked by what we have now been able to reveal to them due to the privacy safeguards provided by the IPSO investigation.

I will also be sending this latest stream of emails between you and myself to your superiors at the BBC and OFCOM as this seems like just another media hack job. We know first hand that your director-general Tim Davie has shown a particular interest in this, so we will be ensuring he is kept updated especially given the scrutiny the BBC is under for it’s lack of due diligence as to the trustworthiness of its BrewDog sources which is the case here with Lighthouse too.

As I said to Tom Kelly of the Daily Mail which he ignored to his peril “you say you are an investigative journalist so.. investigate” We ask you to do the same Natalie, do your job and be professional and be thorough. Insist on the facts and the evidence where it is. We have it. Do you want it or not? Please answer the above professionally and thoroughly or I will just come back to you as I am indeed thorough.

We have evidence against all allegations which are all online. We have the facts and it would be extremely remiss, unprofessional and unethical of the BBC to move without it and it would be very remiss for us to not provide it in return. 

It stands to reason that given the facts and the evidence are available under certain circumstances that no information should be shared publicly without it. One would think that this would be the basic standard for journalistic and editorial integrity. 

Given what I have now shared with you in relation to the evidence we hold in your sources’ own words you can no longer claim ignorance and should you proceed without the inclusion of said evidence you render yourselves part of the illegal and unlawful smear campaign against myself and Lighthouse. This would show bias and prejudice of an unprecedented proportion and an agenda to be part of this smear campaign rather than an objective investigative reporter. 

Regards

Paul Waugh

LIghthouse

Exhibit 14: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 22nd February 2023

Date: 22nd February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC), Tim Davie (BBC), Mike Cowan (BBC), Joanna Carr

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Sorry Natalie my email is messing me around. The last mail sent here on this stream copied in to the others is the final draft. I have also had Chris Nash send you a copy to ensure that you receive it. 

Sent from my iPhone

Exhibit 15: The BBC reply to Lighthouse – 24th February 2023

Date: 24th February 2023

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

To: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation 

Hi Paul,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

We note your remarks about the ‘impending court case commencing next week’. 


 

Best,

Natalie

Exhibit 16: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 24th February 2023

Date: 24th February 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC), Tim Davie (BBC), Mike Cowan (BBC), 

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Dear Natalie..

There was a lot there that you have not explicitly noted but by default I’m sure you and all involved at the BBC have done at a reasonable and proactive level. I’m pleased that reason is prevailing and that you are willing to dig deeper and broader beyond the realms of superficiality that journalism is so afflicted by these days. In the end everything I have shared with you is all inter connected in some way to that very reality.  Let truth prevail! Reality not perceived and or biased and prejudicial pseudo reality. Let’s be committed to reality and truth based on facts and evidence (that we have comprehensively in our possession) be thoroughly represented by hard work with an earnest diligence and conscience. 

Have a good weekend

Regards

Paul Waugh

Lighthouse

Exhibit 17: The BBC to Lighthouse – 6th March 2023

Date: 6th March 2023

From: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

To: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

Subject: BBC Investigation

Attachment: BBC Letter P Waugh.pdf (5 pages) 

Dear Paul Waugh,

Please find attached a document for your attention.

 

If you would like to respond to any of the points you have until Wednesday 15th March to reply, for us to be able to consider them for inclusion.

 

Yours sincerely,

Natalie

Natalie Truswell

Producer – BBC NEWS

Exhibit 18: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 6th March 2023

Date: 6th March 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC), Ravin Sampat (BBC)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Natalie, what comes next is going to blow you and the old BBC dinosaur into remission! It is literally going to blow your presumptuous minds into oblivion. Stand by! 

Paul Waugh 

Lighthouse 

Exhibit 19: Lighthouse reply to the BBC – 15th March 2023

Date: 15th March 2023

From: Paul Waugh (Lighthouse)

To: Natalie Truswell (BBC)

CC: Tim Davie (BBC), Ravin Sampat (BBC)

Subject: Re: BBC Investigation

Natalie, 

I would like to bring the following to your attention.

  1. We offered the BBC evidence several different ways. You chose not to receive it. This hard evidence would disprove everything on your list of malicious myths as silly as some are. 
  1. Given that the BBC have chosen not to receive our damning evidence (especially the evidence that totally proves that the BBC are supporting and championing child abusive and sexually abusive  families and their members in a smear campaign against us) we have chosen to find a solution that reveals this evidence to you and the public. This solution includes us compiling a docu-series using your anti Lighthouse (and anti myself) malicious myth list as a template. I did 7 hours of interview yesterday straight without a break. We are currently adding the evidence. This will ensure that the public and yourselves receive your malicious myth list and all evidence including audio recordings of abusive family members and your sources. 
  1. Additionally I would like to advise you that given that the smear campaign that you are complicit in has been running for several years and should defame us (given full evidence available)  now we will absolutely have to throw the book (including legal) at the BBC. We cannot allow this to continue. We would be forced to hold the BBC totally responsible and as an example in order to finally bring closure to this matter once and for all in the full public (and judicial) view. 
  1. We will get the first part of this series  to you asap which focuses on the families and their child abuses, their relentless attacks on us and the corporations that have and are supporting them including most recently yourselves at the BBC. 

Paul Waugh 

Lighthouse Global

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